If everything you say is based on passionately held feelings, and your goal is to persuade people of the absolute rightness of your provably wrongheaded positions, and you don’t mind being untruthful and resorting to tired tricks to avoid answering basic questions, you can give exactly the interview this “nonpartisan” MAGA spokesman for the Koch Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025 did on MSNBC. A masterclass in all that really.
Robert Reich explains what Project 2025 is, asking for support for Inequality Media so they can spread the word on this brazen blueprint for a “conservative-libertarian” dictatorship:



